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PDS/PDMS in Piping Design
16 years 8 months ago - 16 years 8 months ago #4163 by Buggernuts
Replied by Buggernuts on topic Jop, Have to take you
Jop, Have to take you to task on this!!
PDS is a comprehensive, intelligent (Really!!) 
computer-aided design/engineering (CAD/CAE) application for plant design, construction, and operations. Production-driven, it helps EPCs and owner/operators deliver the best design possible (Assuming the Designers know what they are doing! 
) - and do it more efficiently to reduce the total installed cost of the project. Due to its capability and commitment to the industry, many leading engineering firms and owner/operators have selected PDS as their corporate standard.
The software also includes enhancements to:
* Piping Design Environment
* Equipment Modeling Environment - Pretty much non-intelligent, ie multiple lines can be connected to the same nozzle. This is not allowed to happen in PDMS
* Isometric Drawing Generation - Produced by Alias - so it works!!
* Material Data Publisher - Least said about this pile of junk the better!
* Project Engineer HVAC
* Drawing Manager - Use OrthoGen, much better product!!
Smart(?)Plant Review. Change ONE line and have to reload the WHOLE session!!!
PDS is a comprehensive, intelligent (Really!!)
The software also includes enhancements to:
* Piping Design Environment
* Equipment Modeling Environment - Pretty much non-intelligent, ie multiple lines can be connected to the same nozzle. This is not allowed to happen in PDMS
* Isometric Drawing Generation - Produced by Alias - so it works!!
* Material Data Publisher - Least said about this pile of junk the better!
* Project Engineer HVAC
* Drawing Manager - Use OrthoGen, much better product!!
Smart(?)Plant Review. Change ONE line and have to reload the WHOLE session!!!
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16 years 8 months ago - 16 years 8 months ago #4165 by Nipper
Replied by Nipper on topic If you find PDMS unfriendly,
If you find PDMS unfriendly, i advise you never to put your hand up to work with PDS.
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16 years 7 months ago - 16 years 7 months ago #4166 by Buggernuts
Replied by Buggernuts on topic "Both are computer aid drafting/design
"Both are computer aid drafting/design programs to generate Piping drawings. ...In other words another way to draw lines and circles with a computer!"
I think if you wanted to just 'draw lines and circles' you'd just use Autocad or Microstation, and not a full-blown 3D Modelling system!!
And you do get more than just Piping Drawings from both systems, like Material Takeoffs (painfully with PDS MDP!), Clash Detection (as you are routing Pipe with PDMS - sort of with PDS), Verification that what is being modelled (or has been modelled) is valid and up to date with the latest Specs, Weights, C of G reports (important for offshore - but painful to do if the weight tables havent already been created in PDS!!), and also downstream (or is it upsteam) advantages, like Review and walkthrough models that can be used on site etc etc. (Ever used WalkinSide and got the guy swimming!! Managers and Clients LOVE that!! )
I think if you wanted to just 'draw lines and circles' you'd just use Autocad or Microstation, and not a full-blown 3D Modelling system!!
And you do get more than just Piping Drawings from both systems, like Material Takeoffs (painfully with PDS MDP!), Clash Detection (as you are routing Pipe with PDMS - sort of with PDS), Verification that what is being modelled (or has been modelled) is valid and up to date with the latest Specs, Weights, C of G reports (important for offshore - but painful to do if the weight tables havent already been created in PDS!!), and also downstream (or is it upsteam) advantages, like Review and walkthrough models that can be used on site etc etc. (Ever used WalkinSide and got the guy swimming!! Managers and Clients LOVE that!!
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