North, Geographic, Plant, etc. fm. CHETAN SHAH

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16 years 6 months ago - 16 years 6 months ago #7224 by Jop
I got this question from Chetam Shah by E-mail

North, Geographic, Plant, etc.
The question:
What is the difference between geographic north, plant north and isometric north? What are the criteria to apply to these directions during plot plan development and piping study?


My answer:
You have asked a very good question. There are a number of “North’s” and every designer, engineer, project manager and client needs to know and understand what these are and what they means to the project.
So let’s look at the list of common North’s that are found on process plant projects along with a description of what it is and why it is used.
· True North: Every place on earth has a True North and it is pretty much the same no manner where you are. It is located at 90 degrees north of the equator, it is the North Pole. It does not move.
· Geographic North: Same as True North. The term True North is normally the preferred terminology for this.
· Magnetic North: Magnetic North is not normally used on the average process plant project. The magnetic North Pole is always moving. In 2005 the earth’s Magnetic North was located at 82.7 degrees North Latitude and 114.4 degrees West Longitude. This places it far off the north coast of Canada. Because it is always moving it is not reliable as t fixed reference point.
· Plant North: For a project on dry land this is the most important North Arrow used in the process plant engineering, design and construction business. It is rare to find a piece of property that has the major axis of the property aligned with True North. Because of the way all of our ancestors settled the countries and lands of the world then built roads everything is out of alignment with the North Pole. When a project is first started, the property (of some shape) is displayed on a property map that will normally include a North Arrow showing True North. The property may be at any angle (angle of declination) off True North. It is very difficult to do any kind of design if everything is at an odd angle. To simplify the design process a new North is created for the project and this is called the Plant North. It is normal to include the Plant North and the True North on the project Plot Plan along with the angle of declination. Other documents such as structural foundations and piping plans only need the Plant North. as a reference point.
· Platform North: For an offshore drilling platform or processing facility platform this is the most important North Arrow. The Platform North will be assigned for each specific platform and may or may not relate to actual north.
· Isometric North: There is not (or should not be) anything called an “Isometric North.” Isometrics must have a North Arrow on them but it is the Plant North, not a different north.

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16 years 6 months ago - 16 years 6 months ago #4331 by chanock
Replied by chanock on topic jop, in the isometrics on the
jop,

in the isometrics on the platform (petroleum) the north is in the drilling zone, ever we have two north: geografic and of the platform

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16 years 6 months ago - 16 years 6 months ago #4333 by Jop
Replied by Jop on topic Chanock: For a platform project it
Chanock:
For a platform project it is Platform North
For a dry land project it is Plant North.

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16 years 6 months ago - 16 years 6 months ago #4336 by chanock
Replied by chanock on topic jop, of course sr. regards
jop,

of course sr.

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