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15 years 9 months ago - 15 years 9 months ago #7352 by arunr.official
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Diff. between the description of field weld, field fit weld in isometrics…..

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15 years 9 months ago - 15 years 9 months ago #4713 by Jop
Replied by Jop on topic From a previous question. Field Weld
From a previous question.

Field Weld and Final Fit Weld (Revision 1)
The question:
“Hi, I have been working for almost 12 years in design office of three companies. During my design experience I have not gotten any chance to have construction experience. Because of this I have a lack of knowledge regarding field welds and fit field welds.
Generally we mark field weld and fit field weld on the IFC (Issued For Construction) isometric while considering container size 40'x8'x8' for size 2" and above and for below 1 .5" we follow 20'x8'x8'.
Still I am not confident with what we marked.
Can somebody focus on this more like a rule of thumb?

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Based on what you described, you are doing it (field welds and fit field welds) just right.
I am not sure what your question is.
Are you asking about the "box" sizes you listed? Or Are you asking why are there field welds and fit field welds?

The box sizes are determined by a number of reasons:
1. shipping size. The 8' x 8' x 40' is the largest size normally allowed for over the highway truck that would carry prefabricated piping.
2. The 8' x 8' x 40' results in maximizing the number of less expensive shop welds and reduces the number of more expensive field welds
3. The 8' x 8' x 40' for the larger size piping is because larger piping is more stable for lifting without bending when handled during a crane lift for installation.
4. The 8' x 8' x 20' for the smaller size piping is because the small piping is less stable for lifting and prone to bending when handled during a crane lift for installation.


Why are there Field welds (FW) and why are there fit field welds (FFW)
FW = Piping is normally prefabricated in a pipe fabrication shop that is remote from the job site. Remote is a relative term, the shop may be located 10 miles or 10,000 miles away. The FW is a standard weld to be made in the field for the purpose of installation no extra pipe is included by the shop. The FW's in a given line may be made in any order. The piping designer who creates the isometric is the person who is best able to decide the best location or place to have a field weld.
FFW = The Fit Field Weld (sometimes called Final Fit Weld) is intended to be the last weld made in the installation of a long or complex line where there is the possibility for a dimensional misfit. For this purpose, normally the shop in instructed to leave 6'' to 9" extra pipe on one side of the FFW.

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15 years 9 months ago - 15 years 9 months ago #4715 by arunr.official
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thanks jop......

i got the right one.....

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15 years 9 months ago - 15 years 9 months ago #4722 by chanock
Replied by chanock on topic JOP, Your comments is about onshore,
JOP,

Your comments is about onshore, but on offshore the shipping size. The 54' x 180' is the typical size for the barges that would carry prefabricated piping (side taps, expansions curves, risers, goose neck, spools, etc.)

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15 years 9 months ago - 15 years 9 months ago #4723 by Jop
Replied by Jop on topic chanock, Good point, thanks for the
chanock,
Good point, thanks for the education. I can always learn something new.
Jop

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