Jeffrey Gardiner

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    Jeffrey Gardiner
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    Good afternoon

    I have a few constructability thoughts regarding butterfly valves:

    -When selecting tapped or through holes, you should consider how the system will be installed and maintained. Consider if the valve will be a maintenance/or construction isolation boundary. A valve with through holes will require flanges on both faces of the butterfly valve to hold it in place, and this may not be possible during maintenance activities if piping needs to be removed. Compare to a tapped lug style where the valve can be secured to one flange and used as isolation boundary, while the down stream flange and piping can be removed and maintained (if needed)

    -Consider butterfly valve operational clearances: Had a peer that had a contractor install a branch line with butterfly valve isolation during a system shutdown. Contractor put a reducing flange on the downstream side (blocking the swing of the disc). Contractor then proceeded to “test” valve and smashed disc into reducing flange and discovered valve was blocked from opening…So remove the flange and replace? Nope they used a wafer-style butterfly valve and there was no way to remove the flange and hold the valve and isolation boundary in place. Ended up taking the system down again….

    Just my thoughts…been burned before

    Jeff

    #7684
    Jeffrey Gardiner
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    Can’t forget about a pump’s vibration and the effect on adjoing piping. I recently completed a project that involved the evaluating the repeated failure of airlines supporting a solenoid for AOV control. The repeated failure caused the AOV to change positions and introduce system transients. Copper air tubing supporting the solenoid seemed to be right in resonance with the system vibration.

    Turned out the fluid pulsations from a 3-piston positive displacement pump (75 gpm @ 2100 psi) were shaking the system.

    Ended up replacing the copper air tubing with a short Sch 80 threaded stainless nipple. Quick fix mitigated failures the plant had been living with for years. Always amazed how the simplest fixes can have the biggest impact.

    Technical Details: https://www.xceed-eng.com/preventing-fatigue-failures/

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