[pipingguy]

For consideration: https://www.spedweb.com/images/SPED_RP001_Piping_Designer_Baseline_Skils_Assessment_Rev.0.pdf

[pipingguy]

Yes it is a great article.

A minor point: AutoCAD is really a *platform* for a few different piping design-related software add-on packages – Cadworx, Autoplant, Cadpipe, Procad, Plant 4D et al, although Autodesk is working on their own piping design program codenamed “Stella”, now in beta testing.

Legacy PDS only runs on MicroStation J/7 (I think) and the “big boys” (newest PDMS and developing SmartPlant) do not need a CAD platform to run on top of, as the graphics are all generated “on the fly” from a database. Except for 2D deliverables, which still need a CAD package to generate physical drawings.

If anyone can correct me on any of this, please do so. It’s a confusing business and I miss my T-squares, templates and the graphite-stained fingers.

Paul
Piping Design Central

[pipingguy]

Yes it is a great article.

A minor point: AutoCAD is really a *platform* for a few different piping design-related software add-on packages – Cadworx, Autoplant, Cadpipe, Procad, Plant 4D et al, although Autodesk is working on their own piping design program codenamed “Stella”, now in beta testing.

Legacy PDS only runs on MicroStation J/7 (I think) and the “big boys” (newest PDMS and developing SmartPlant) do not need a CAD platform to run on top of, as the graphics are all generated “on the fly” from a database. Except for 2D deliverables, which still need a CAD package to generate physical drawings.

If anyone can correct me on any of this, please do so. It’s a confusing business and I miss my T-squares, templates and the graphite-stained fingers.

Paul
Piping Design Central

[pipingguy]

I see you’ve read my buddy Jacques’ writing. There’s a lot more interesting pump and hydraulic-related stuff at his site, including home-grown, kitchen video experiments that demonstrate pressure and other neat stuff.

Jacques is a pretty cool guy, a karate black belt instructor but also an engineer. Two out of three ain’t bad.

Uh-oh, I hope he doesn’t kick my ass next time I see him.

Paul
pipingdesign.com

[pipingguy]

See http://www.sait.ab.ca/pages/cometosait/ … appd.shtml

For us graphite-stained, old time pipers there were no classes/courses in piping available (except maybe for vocational school drafting with the option to specialize in some field); everything was absorbed through apprenticeship and experience.

Let me know if/when you get to Calgary.

Paul
Calgary
http://www.pipingdesign.com

[pipingguy]

I need customer support for Pencil 1.0. After I use the device for a while the pointy part gets flatter and the lines I draw get wider. Eventually, the whole system shuts down and I hear screeching noises from the substrate.

In addition, this device seems to be producing a fine, toxic powderish substance that I am sure causes cancer or some other horrendous diseases.

I’ve asked some of the older guys about this but they showed me some sharp, dangerous-looking steel thingamajings that could put out an eye or be used as impromptu weapons. That’s some scary stuff, those old guys must have been like totally unenlightened and barbaric back in the day.

Please throw eraser bags at me now if you know what an eraser bag is.

Paul

[pipingguy]

PDS and PDMS is a bit of an exclusive club as compared to AutoCAD or MicroStation-based piping design software.

In the long run, the latter will win out simply due to momentum and relatively easy access (familiarity) with users.

[pipingguy]

As an aside, in the old days of board drafting the wheat and the chaff was pretty easily separated. You either had drawing skills or you didn’t. These days (since a lot of the old guard has retired/died) anyone with a computer and a copy of AutoCAD often qualifies as a draftsman.

[pipingguy]

Some companies buttweld 2″ but most use SW for that size and below (in my experience). Bear in mind that “small bore” piping is a relative concept. For a large process facility it is unreasonable to detail design the smaller lines, but for package units or special applications routing small piping can be very important.

[pipingguy]

Does this mean that the old comments are gone now? I’ll keep the link to the old site at pipingdesign.com until you can migrate.

[pipingguy]

We always called them spools, “pup” is a bit too cutesy-sounding.

The ultimate answer is in the ASME codes (heat-affected zones), surely everyone here is familiar with these.

http://www.asme.org/Communities/History … istory.cfm

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