[whichwayisup]

I’ll need to split my vote between Anton & JOP.

Between them they have done immense work on behalf of pipers everywhere, and they should be commended.

Well done guys.

[whichwayisup]

Time may tell!

I have experienced projects using workshare hubs, aka “High Value” centres.
These have been mostly based in India, but also in other emerging nations.

The problem I found, is that while there is definitly an initial cost saving, I have yet to see the “Value” that this system of design is supposed to bring to the party.

The first thing a company sees when it goes down this route is the difference in rates. A piper in India will get paid approx. 1/4 – 1/3 of the rate of a UK piper, so the initial savings seem obvious.

I worked on one of these projects where the High Value centre (we’re not allowed call it a low cost centre any more) boasted that they would be supplying a team with 30 years piping experience.
It soon became obvious that this 30 years experience was the COMBINED experience of the team, a team of 8 pipers, the most senior of those had about 7 years experience, that left the average experience of the other 7 guys around 3 to 4 years.

Now, in my experience, this is a team of junior pipers, led by an intermediate piper. And it showed.

While the work was done quickly initially, it was found to reflect the experience levels of the guys performing it, it had to be reworked several times before it came even close to something we could present to a client.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not on an “India-bashing” rant here, if this standard of work was being produced out of an office in the UK, US, Canada, Ireland, Perth, Aberdeen or some other place where piping is an established profession, there would be serious repercussions!

I have seen plenty of bad design coming out of the UK, but the pipers involved are usually shown the door and issued with a DCM (Don’t come Monday!)

Value is not just about money!

[whichwayisup]

I’ll third the motion!
Great work by all involved … keep it up.

I’ve been clicking on the Google ads, when I remember … I hope that helps with the site expenses … I encourage anyone who finds the site useful to do the same.

[whichwayisup]

I’d love to be there, but I’ll probably have a few tinnies by the barby instead!
Enjoy your night lads!

[whichwayisup]

The old forum is still available for reference.

It can be found here:

http://pub41.bravenet.com/forum/3449733770

[whichwayisup]

Hi friend.

getting a proper training normally goes very expensive… better u get pdms software and learn it urself… since u already have experience it will not be difficult fo you…

Thanks

Chmaub,

Why is it better to illegally download software, then try to muddle through it, without any guidance?

It is better to find an approved training agency/company and PAY for proper tuition!!!

You will also get a certificate of competance for use of that particular software.

WWIU

[whichwayisup]

So, no chance of the coveted 50 euro an hour then ?

Pity that, I kinda liked the idea of a 6 figure income in Ireland!

[whichwayisup]

I agree with ollie on the 6″ / 1 1/2 D rule for pups …

Having said that, I’ve seen make-up spools that were pretty short. 2″ / 50 mm pipe between weld necks.

I’m no welding expert, but I think the trick used was to make the first weld to a longer piece of pipe, then cut the pipe to length, then weld the second flange on. That way you get a “normal” heat pattern in both welds as there’s more material to carry the heat away.

One other question though, can anyone tell me where the name PUP piece originated from?

Is it an abbreviation, an achronynm or a made up word??

WWIU

[whichwayisup]

Hi Bob,

Is the licence for pipersuite transferable?
Because I move around from job to job, is it possible that the software can move with me?

Also, with regard to flanges, are dimension supplied for ANSI, DIN and EN standards?

Cheers,
WWIU

[whichwayisup]

So not really up there with London and Mainland Europe yet?

maybe I’ll hit London for a while first!

[whichwayisup]

What about it?
Is there a question in there somewhere?

[whichwayisup]

Small bore up to 2″/DN50 …

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What’s Dublin like?

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