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What should be the ideal location of a vertical flare stack in a refinery with respect to the wind direction

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What should be the ideal location of a vertical flare stack in a refinery with respect to the wind direction.
I have got mixed answers for this question some said it should be on the down stream of a plant some said it is preferred to locate it on side corners of a plot, OISD 118 says flare should be located 90 mtr. Away from any process unit on up stream of wind direction wrt. to plot.



   
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Flare Stacks and Fired Heaters contain Fire and therefore is a point of ignition for any flammable hydrocarbon vapors.

Flare Stacks
Locate the flare stack upwind of process units, with a minimum distance of 200 feet from process equipment, tanks, and cooling towers. If the stack height is less than 75 feet, increase this distance to a minimum of 300 feet. These minimum distances should be verified by Company Process Engineering.

Furnaces (Fired Equipment)
Locate fired equipment, if practical, so that flammable gases from hydrocarbon and other processing areas cannot be blown into the open flames by prevailing winds.
Horizontal clearance from hydrocarbon equipment (shell to shell) 50'- 0” Exception: Reactors or equipment in alloy systems should be located for economical piping arrangement.
Provide sufficient access and clearance at fired equipment for removal of tubes, soot blowers, air preheater baskets, burners, fans, and other related serviceable equipment.
Clearance from edge of roads to shell 10’- 0"
Pressure relief doors and tube access doors should be free from obstructions. Orient pressure relief doors so as not to blow into adjacent equipment.
The elevation of the bottom of the heater above the high point of the finished surface should allow free passage for operation and maintenance.

Furnace Piping
Locate snuffing steam manifolds and fuel gas shutoff valves a minimum of 50 feet horizontally from the heaters they protect.
Burner Valving for a Floor Fired Furnaces: Combination oil and gas firing valves should be operable from burner observation door platform. For those fired by gas only, the valves should be near the burner and should be operable from grade.
Burner Valving for a Side Fired Furnaces: Locate firing valves so they can be operated while the flame is viewed from the observation door.



   
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Flare Stacks and Fired Heaters contain Fire and therefore is a point of ignition for any flammable hydrocarbon vapors.

Flare Stacks
Locate the flare stack upwind of process units, with a minimum distance of 200 feet from process equipment, tanks, and cooling towers. If the stack height is less than 75 feet, increase this distance to a minimum of 300 feet. These minimum distances should be verified by Company Process Engineering.

Furnaces (Fired Equipment)
Locate fired equipment, if practical, so that flammable gases from hydrocarbon and other processing areas cannot be blown into the open flames by prevailing winds.
Horizontal clearance from hydrocarbon equipment (shell to shell) 50'- 0” Exception: Reactors or equipment in alloy systems should be located for economical piping arrangement.
Provide sufficient access and clearance at fired equipment for removal of tubes, soot blowers, air preheater baskets, burners, fans, and other related serviceable equipment.
Clearance from edge of roads to shell 10’- 0"
Pressure relief doors and tube access doors should be free from obstructions. Orient pressure relief doors so as not to blow into adjacent equipment.
The elevation of the bottom of the heater above the high point of the finished surface should allow free passage for operation and maintenance.

Furnace Piping
Locate snuffing steam manifolds and fuel gas shutoff valves a minimum of 50 feet horizontally from the heaters they protect.
Burner Valving for a Floor Fired Furnaces: Combination oil and gas firing valves should be operable from burner observation door platform. For those fired by gas only, the valves should be near the burner and should be operable from grade.
Burner Valving for a Side Fired Furnaces: Locate firing valves so they can be operated while the flame is viewed from the observation door.



   
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Open Flames always upwind so that flammable gases from hydrocarbon and other processing areas cannot be blown into the open flames by prevailing winds.



   
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Open Flames always upwind so that flammable gases from hydrocarbon and other processing areas cannot be blown into the open flames by prevailing winds.



   
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Preferred is upwind. But it can alternately be located on the sidewind. At some instance where it cannot be really avoided, the stack may also be located downwind provided that a gas dispersion study and consequence modeling was carried out for all potential release scenarios, and the required separation distance between release source and stack as per study was met.



   
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Preferred is upwind. But it can alternately be located on the sidewind. At some instance where it cannot be really avoided, the stack may also be located downwind provided that a gas dispersion study and consequence modeling was carried out for all potential release scenarios, and the required separation distance between release source and stack as per study was met.



   
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Agreed Knives, sometimes it is not always possible to meet the IDEAL & yes I have seen the sidewind location of the flare stack.



   
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Agreed Knives, sometimes it is not always possible to meet the IDEAL & yes I have seen the sidewind location of the flare stack.



   
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I have found a valuable piece of info from this link. 🙂
What does the Code say about Flare stack location (Upwind or Downwind)?



   
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I agree with Jop on Note Note No.1
I personally prefer to put the flare stack on cross wind.

Thanks



   
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Antony,

Both your references supplied:

Reference: 8.3.1.k
Environmental Protection for Onshore Oil and Gas Production Operations and Leases
API RECOMMENDED PRACTICE 51R
FIRST EDITION, JULY 2009

and

Reference:5.8.c.1
Recommended Practice for Design and Installation of Offshore
Production Platform Piping Systems
API RECOMMENDED PRACTICE 14E (RP 14E)
FIFTH EDITION, OCTOBER 1, 1991

appear to be the opposite of what is regarded as good engineering practice - and what others on this topic have said.

That being said, there are a numberof factors to consider, not least of of site personnel safety - and each plant will have its own particular set of challenges.

In a large refinery plant, where there is plenty of space, an "Upwind" location would negate any hydrocarbon gas leakage from process being transferred to flare stack which is a source of ignition for these gases.

Offshore however, 'Downwind’ maybe preferable, so as to avoid any dangers/ill-effects to plant& personnel;
There are no nearby properties so the chances/possibilities of a nearby adjoining property "going up" are remote.

Regardless of rules and codes, every project must be looked at on its own merits ...
Someone said once (probably JOP)
There is a rule for everything in piping ... and for every rule, there is an exception!



   
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Regarding the reference:
“What does the Code say about Flare stack location with respect to Prevailing Wind Direction”

My comments:
Note #1 – This is dead wrong. Placing the Flare Stack (or Flare Pit) down wind of the Facility and the potential leaks could result in a Back-Flash of the Vapors and a fire in the plant.

Note #5 – This is not a good idea. It is better to have an active Pilot system. Pressure relief Valves are prone to leakage and large facilities can have hundreds of relief valves. Low pressure and low flow Vapors leaks could build up in the Flare system piping and be ignited by a lighting strike.
Real Case: A California, USA Refinery, Time: the middle of the night on a warm summer evening. Heavy Hydrocarbon Vapors were released and boiled over the top of pilot less flare stack. It then ‘flowed’ down the stack and spread out over the plant and surrounding facilities. The invisible ground cloud grew and reached a road out side the property fence. It was ignited by a person going home from a late night work shift at a Hospital at 3: am. The driver was later found to have been smoking a cigarette with the windows rolled down.

Notes #2, 3, 4, 6 & 7 - These are just Common Sense.



   
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I found some design instructions for flare stack. hope it helpful.
1. flare stack location should be upwind direction of processing unit.
2. knock-out drum should be close to flare stack, so that their distance could be the shortest.
3. area within 60meter from flare stack shouldn't have any public road or other facility (except knock-out drum) to avoid flare flare heat radiation.
4. flare stack should have slope and drain.
5. purge steam line should do stress analysis to decide the location of anchor and support.

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Regards.

Charlie



   
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